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Ashes of Creation isn't Just another Empty Sandbox - This is Why
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Ashes of Creation is an Immersive huge open world Sandpark MMORPG that is redefining the gaming landscape. Created for fans of PVP, PVE, and Roleplay, this ever-changing world promises the ultimate MMO experience. This game, which began development in 2016 and upgraded to Unreal Engine 5 in 2021, is now on the cusp of revolutionizing the MMORPG genre. Intrepid Studios are working towards delivering these highly requested features to an old school playerbase waiting for that MMORPG to bring them back to the golden age of the early 2000s:9 different playable races with both male and female options.A massive 1200 square kilometer world size at launch with 85 Nodes.A fully open world game with no loading screens, offering complete freedom to explore.A rich array of features including Dungeons, Raids, World Bosses, Open World PVP, Caravan PVP, castle sieges, node sieges, arenas, duels, guild wars, and more.A vibrant player-driven economy, crafting and artisan system, political system, citizenship, player run shops, taverns with parlor games, and a unique character customization system.Ashes of Creation offers an experience like no other, combining the best elements of both sandbox and theme park MMOs. This is a game built by an MMO fan for MMO fans, fully funded and committed to a zero pay-to-win model.
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Pax Dei Was Not Ready For Early Access
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Alpha 2 is in Serious Trouble
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How Big Will Alpha 2 Updates Be?
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Is Ashes of Creation Combat Ready for Alpha 2?
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Ashes of Creation is Finally Ramping into Alpha 2
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Discussing the State of Ashes of Creation with Alpha 2 Testers
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Ashes of Creation just Dropped their NDA for Alpha 2
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Ashes of Creation is Showing their BIGGEST Showcase So Far
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I Can Fix All Ashes of Creations Problems
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Our First Look into Ashes of Creations Future
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Is Ashes of Creations Alpha 2 Pay to Win?
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I Made a Bet With Steven And Immidiately Lost
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Steven Opens Up About the Alpha 2
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Will Alpha 2 Get Delayed?
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Are Our Expectations Too High for Alpha 2?
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Are Our Expectations Too High for Alpha 2?
Are Ashes of Creations Nights Dark Enough?
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Are Ashes of Creations Nights Dark Enough?
Ashes of Creation Just Had a Massive Revamp
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Ashes of Creation Just Had a Massive Revamp
Ashes of Creation is About to Change Forever
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Ashes of Creation is About to Change Forever
Alpha 2 May be Bigger Then We Anticipated
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Alpha 2 May be Bigger Then We Anticipated
Revealing The 7 Completed Biomes in Alpha 2
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Revealing The 7 Completed Biomes in Alpha 2
Why You Can't Compare Ashes of Creation with Black Desert
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Why You Can't Compare Ashes of Creation with Black Desert
This is Why You'll be Addicted to Ashes of Creation
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This is Why You'll be Addicted to Ashes of Creation
Ashes of Creation Complete Another Major Milestone
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Ashes of Creation Complete Another Major Milestone
How I Started Enjoying MMOs Again
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How I Started Enjoying MMOs Again
Ashes of Creation Is Changing How We Play MMOs
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Ashes of Creation Is Changing How We Play MMOs
The Next Unreal Engine 5 Update Is BIG for Ashes of Creation
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The Next Unreal Engine 5 Update Is BIG for Ashes of Creation
Does My Feedback Matter for Ashes of Creation?
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Does My Feedback Matter for Ashes of Creation?
Ashes of Creation a GANKBOX!? Steven Responds to Slander and Lies
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Ashes of Creation a GANKBOX!? Steven Responds to Slander and Lies
Ashes of Creations Combat Has Come a Long Way in Just 3 years
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Ashes of Creations Combat Has Come a Long Way in Just 3 years

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  • @jamakasis18
    @jamakasis18 17 годин тому

    Im not sure T&L is worse than... a game that doesn't exist :)

  • @-CrimsonReD-
    @-CrimsonReD- 21 годину тому

    i'm gonna have to agree, new world town board idea sucks. how about an official office that has commissions presented by an npc for a little bit more immersion one for common crap and one for mayor specified jobs. and each time you get more slots as the mayor, per what you were thinking, you would have to build it up (so it goes from some npc standing behind a crate to an npc sitting behind a large desk) ... so yea, boards suck. and while we're at it, how about town criers.

  • @wordarok7261
    @wordarok7261 22 години тому

    leave my mom alone lol

  • @JaydedWun
    @JaydedWun День тому

    "Rich get richer mechanics" are exactly the number one problem this game will be running into 1 -2 years into it's release cycle. It happens to every. single. MMO. Why? Because every MMO just copy/pastes modern econonomic functions from the real world - a fundamentally severely broken system - into their games. Then when the exact same thing happens to every MMO that happens in real life - market concentration, wealth inequality and then hoarding and inflation - they throw up their hands and say "who could have predicted this!"

  • @Reconson
    @Reconson День тому

    BRO I JUST WANNA PLAY THE GAME

  • @thomkok12
    @thomkok12 День тому

    I would like for ashes of creation to look at a specific game I love dearly for the resource gatering and production gameplay. The Settlers 7 has the most complex version of resource gathering and production of all the settlers games currently. I would like it to have this kind of economic depth in this MMO. Needing woodcutters -> sawmills to create planks for building materials, miners/stonecutters -> for stone blocks, so you are able to go in more depth with that material as well. Food (to improve production percentages or some survival benefits maybe). Ores to smelt (smelt coins or tools/weapons). Needing storehous(s) to store the resources needed for the city as mentioned in the video. The mayor this way would be managing the city in more detail this way too. Trying to manage the resource and production paths and keeping productivity high. I would be jealous not to be a mayor if that would be the case.

  • @mufasafalldown8401
    @mufasafalldown8401 День тому

    This game is hot garbage. There is *nothing* there. After their own admission of all the things that Pax Dei is not, nothing remains. The *only* thing the game does is take other survival crafting solo experiences and gate it behind an extremely grindy multiplayer system.

    • @mufasafalldown8401
      @mufasafalldown8401 День тому

      The funniest part is the Pax Dei truthers that claim this is all "catering to the multiplayer rather than the solo player". Nooooo they're just bloating the average crafting experience of any other game.

  • @xhazlas2572
    @xhazlas2572 День тому

    I feel like the major system should allow different ways of government. If you make a mayor lvling system you get a monarchy or oligarchy. I want weird nodes that get different systrems like some guild of friends that elect the player that has more nut food items in their bag as a mayor

  • @isaiascandido8497
    @isaiascandido8497 День тому

    Activision Blizzard doesn't care about Ashes of Scammation

  • @isaiascandido8497
    @isaiascandido8497 День тому

    Paying for a alpha test is stupid af

  • @sage142111
    @sage142111 День тому

    They should add a scryer profession that can use special equipment in a science or magic node (depending on how the scrying is done) to look far away. This could be in the form of looking at other node stats to using an ability like eye of the hawk in wow to look at any region/dungeon from far away. This could even be used to spot world bosses from far away. These scryers could also be used on large ships in the crows nest.

  • @Dedgeo
    @Dedgeo День тому

    U should make creampies on ypur next live stream

  • @illbean1337
    @illbean1337 День тому

    One thing I was thinking about regarding mayorship and such. Since you probably want an active mayor, someone who's playing the game constantly, someone who's active with the community of the node. Wouldn't it make sense to have a contentcreator be a mayor of a node? Lets take this a step further. Would it be OK for a mayor to start requesting real-life donations to make up for money lost at work becuase you're playing Ashes of Creation? So you start getting paid for playing the game and being a really great mayor, would that even be allowed? Is that considered P2W?

  • @baranteyfur4800
    @baranteyfur4800 День тому

    Isn't there content about Ashes of Creation that can only be made before Alpha 2 comes out, that would be meaningless after it comes out? The type of content that only Narc can make? Why doesn't he make them? I don't know. I just miss the old Narc. The Narc before this current one. Before the one that only speaks to chat. I miss the one that adresses me directly. The one that both existed as a UA-camr, and also a sci-fi spaceship captain at the same time. But I feel like that Narc ran out of motivation in a hardcore way. And what he's doing now might just be low maintainance on purpose, so that he doesn't completely deplete his motivation. But it is also true that this state of him causes the followers of the game to run out of copium. He just doesn't deal nearly the same purity anymore. I just miss the skits man. Many of us do. But I know he wasn't rewarded for making them...

    • @CestPasFaux-kt9zq
      @CestPasFaux-kt9zq 21 годину тому

      How can’t you run out of motivation for a game which does not exist et all !!

  • @jamesdavies2042
    @jamesdavies2042 День тому

    Moreover, if the rouge does the espionage, they receive a debuff where if they die it’s really fucking bad, that way, interrogating them capturing them and ransoming them over could be much more organic, maybe the debuff extends to the home people in some way.

  • @jamesdavies2042
    @jamesdavies2042 День тому

    In regards to the need to defend goblins, possibly a threshold of difficulty/ numbers of attackers is pre determined but if the defenders over defend, the numbers are increased to create a more difficult engagement, potentially this increases rewards too. Just a quick idea:)

  • @an2c615
    @an2c615 День тому

    See how there's no more releases about character creation? That's because female models will be woke and boring

  • @Janman1988
    @Janman1988 День тому

    Came for the cope, stayed for the conspiracy theories! But jokes aside, thanks for ur updates Narc - it would be so much to research myself.

  • @ostrogothiccyoutube8118
    @ostrogothiccyoutube8118 День тому

    ty

  • @demoral3030
    @demoral3030 День тому

    This game will have the same problems as its predecessors: - Nodes and highly sought after areas will be taken over by massive guilds & bots - If you are a solo player (like me) you will NEVER experience most of the content the game has to offer - After few months the game releases players will find out the most meta builds, races and classes. Meaning that they will only accept these meta built characters in raids, events etc - Servers will be overloaded during the first months because of streamers and other cancerous media influencers - Marketplace will eventually be controlled by massive guilds & bots signaling the final downward spiral MMO's just don't work.

  • @Glundberg84
    @Glundberg84 День тому

    That rogue idea was golden! Really hope that will be a thing. As you state, this idea is built upon already existing systems, and that is what makes it so strong. I must add that you had several great suggestions in this video, I feel it's one of your best ones. :)

  • @jebidyah
    @jebidyah День тому

    rogue espionage and stockpile warehouse gameplay sounds really good.

  • @rigormortis3219
    @rigormortis3219 День тому

    thumbnail is clickbait lol and nobody gives a fuck about thornes and liberty .....classless mmos are dogshit like new world

  • @pipz420
    @pipz420 День тому

    Check out Tales of Shadowlands a new mmo from brazil.

  • @dyrtybarstud5261
    @dyrtybarstud5261 2 дні тому

    The intensity of a coin monster coin attack should be fairly easy to manage. Im sure a simple calculation of players in zone , levels of said players and the node level would allow the devs to maintain a 24 hr or longer event at whatever intensity they desire. Modern server tech is moving ever closer to these kind of events being managed relative to players online in real time.

  • @johndoe-qo8cy
    @johndoe-qo8cy 2 дні тому

    @13:29 And this is how fascism starts. :p

  • @anthonyscott3659
    @anthonyscott3659 2 дні тому

    Awesome..... I hate how "sandbox" became just empty contentless building games .... UO was a sandbox yet still had content and npc cities etc ! I miss those MMO days when I could just go buy a new sword without hours of crafting

  • @RealityDysfunction85
    @RealityDysfunction85 2 дні тому

    This game will 100% wind up and empty sandbox.

  • @AlexanderLeister
    @AlexanderLeister 2 дні тому

    At the moment, AoC is one thing: Still not released. Let's hope it turns out good.

  • @jeremypetit3118
    @jeremypetit3118 2 дні тому

    Ashe of création gonna fail just Because he dont have a economic system like BDO, so 1 billions Bots gonna come gold seller etc and thé game gonna Die like every other mmo

  • @Marcus-ss4gn
    @Marcus-ss4gn 2 дні тому

    Unfortunately, I have a feeling like this game will be mainly targeting non-lifers and whales with this many complex systems and so many things to do. Casual players will be abused in every possible way, and they will never be able to compete against nonlifers.

  • @joeypwns
    @joeypwns 2 дні тому

    Brother what the fuck was that 480p game footage you played in the beginning??? Don't do that it hurts my eyes!

  • @BaxxyNut
    @BaxxyNut 2 дні тому

    I just want to play the game. I want something to sink time into that doesn't feel like a waste

  • @joelperry2834
    @joelperry2834 2 дні тому

    the rogues for the storehouse mini game idea should also be skill based, so not any rogue could do it. Also it should be a mayoral quest that has to be given... maybe tie it in to the monster coin system. you could initiate a monster coin raid to cover up the rogue espionage.

  • @LethalHips
    @LethalHips 2 дні тому

    For the goblin attack you can reward the player for a successful goblin defense, give them a token they can turn into the board for the equivalent of a job board task

  • @LlewdLloyd
    @LlewdLloyd 2 дні тому

    It's hilarious that Narc is talking in-depth systems and Steven's in chant just typing "FAWNT"

  • @Rcprobot
    @Rcprobot 2 дні тому

    Still a couple years out at least on this game

  • @XiAMDaBestX
    @XiAMDaBestX 2 дні тому

    Yo Narc can I get an A2 key 🔑 🤔

  • @deathfreak5770
    @deathfreak5770 2 дні тому

    why not player made quest board and it can be made by officers and the mayor ofcourse, where they put the mission + the reward from the city storage or their own, that can make the game Sooooo Alive

  • @michaelaine14
    @michaelaine14 2 дні тому

    This game will never be complete, its just wont happen, Sharrif promised too much. guess we just pray for a kr mmo with western designed systems.

  • @sethisansestorofsatan9477
    @sethisansestorofsatan9477 2 дні тому

    dude wants to play mmorpg as 4k strategy

  • @rayman17420
    @rayman17420 2 дні тому

    Id love to be able to make a thieves, assassins or even spy/espionage/sabotage focused rogues guild. Some more hard core guilds could expand outside their own nodes and become an actual world level power that exists outside the node system. Start by creating multi node infirmation networks for political info and espionage and help members fet into key positions. Imo it would be pretty sick, rogues from various nodes working together to try and wield power from behind the scenes. Maybe have a few run for mayor (obvs without anyone in the node knowing the candidates allegiance is to the guild not the node). Probably going outside the worlds parameters with this line of thought.

  • @PhurPher
    @PhurPher 2 дні тому

    I don't know about "extremely difficult", I'm just more concerned that there is a significant impact if your node fails to defend. Maybe they build their forces outside the node slowly, sending in periodic waves(every day), until eventually your node is just destroyed or you clear them out(clearing them out should be extremely difficult, i.e. commanders that stay in the camp are elite minibosses) It would add not to the strategy of sieges(if the invasions aren't at a set time anyways), but it would add to the interest. "oh shit, our siege is starting and they've already under attack!"

  • @Sutex0sofar
    @Sutex0sofar 2 дні тому

    Your enthusiasm is infectious.

  • @irishijo1
    @irishijo1 2 дні тому

    On the topic of "Rich get richer" mechanics: I dont think they Mayor having a flying mount is one of those, if only because the biggest source of profit shown so far are the caravans, which cant fly or be towed by a flying mount. The flying mount is probably there moreso for political purposes, like meeting someone across a large distance to discuss a treaty or something. Or to act as a sort of shocktrooper, patroling to help their citizens out of a jam or that kind of thing. I think mayors are supposed to be the "Richest", but they also dont get to use their riches for themselves as much as a standard player. The Mayor has to ensure that production isnt faultering, that bandits are taken care of, that quests are going out to players, that buildings are being upgraded and upkept, they have to organize supply routes and politic with nearby nodes. They dont just log in and go questing, killing, and chilling like most players.

    • @JaydedWun
      @JaydedWun День тому

      Unfortunately most gamers are economically illiterate

  • @crgwal
    @crgwal 2 дні тому

    When can we crowd fund you a setup that will get you uploading in 4k :D Thanks for another great upload!

  • @TheUnknownDoc
    @TheUnknownDoc 2 дні тому

    unpopular opinion i prefer a system like older MMO preplaced house in city .. im not in too " oh look i can see this amazing land because every inch of it there is a structure . i Pass for the same reason Pax dei and Rust

  • @rosegold858
    @rosegold858 2 дні тому

    come play Tarisland AOC is DOA

  • @SonySteals
    @SonySteals 2 дні тому

    At this point Ashes of Creation isn’t pretty much anything

    • @Nobody-dc8dp
      @Nobody-dc8dp 2 дні тому

      Their site doesn't even have classes or races. Seems like a scam.

    • @DoomWarrior55
      @DoomWarrior55 2 дні тому

      @@Nobody-dc8dplook up the ashes of creation wiki it has everything you are looking for plus sources

    • @UnrivaledGH
      @UnrivaledGH 2 дні тому

      Literally doesn’t exist

    • @trojancs16
      @trojancs16 2 дні тому

      The alpha has lasted practically 9 years XD

    • @user-iw2xv5yc1q
      @user-iw2xv5yc1q 2 дні тому

      Scam 💯

  • @gamingtemplar9893
    @gamingtemplar9893 2 дні тому

    There are "sandbox mmo" like Pax Dei, some others, there are "theme park" mmos like WoW and most mmos, and then you have real MMORPGs which are not sandbox, themepark, nor "sand park" either. MMORPGs like Everquest, Ultima, Lineage 2, Ragnarok, Runescape, etc, are like in RPG games, ROLE PLAYING GAMES, entire worlds to explore, with rules, with economy, with liberty and focused on player cooperation, not excluding adventures, exploration, quests, killing monsters, wars, crafting, and some other activities and the consequences of killing another player if available. This is not heme park, and not sandbox, nor a mix of both. MMORPGs are their own thing. It's a world with a set of rules and activities, focused on social cooperation and adventure. The wheel was already invented, don't invent a "new wheel".